{"id":17927,"date":"2016-03-18T03:09:52","date_gmt":"2016-03-18T08:09:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=17927"},"modified":"2016-03-18T09:24:41","modified_gmt":"2016-03-18T14:24:41","slug":"eps-54-online-truth-bombs-karma-deeper-grace-guest-ray-hollenbach","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-54-online-truth-bombs-karma-deeper-grace-guest-ray-hollenbach\/","title":{"rendered":"EPS 54: Online &#8220;Truth Bombs&#8221;, Karma &#038; Deeper Grace \u2013 Guest Ray Hollenbach"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I&#8217;m featuring a returning guest, my friend, Ray Hollenbach: teacher, blogger, writer, former pastor, and now a facilitator of the <strong>Deeper Seminars<\/strong>. Ray trains leaders and any one interested in deepening their spiritual maturity and walk of faith in the Fruit of the Spirit in small group settings so lasting\u00a0transformation is likely.<\/p>\n<p>Included in the show notes are FREE downloads of Ray&#8217;s exercises for you (scroll to the bottom to get those). We hope you enjoy them. Be sure to get his powerful book <em>Deeper Grace<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #339966;\">If <em>you<\/em> appreciate what you hear today, if you enjoy it or\u00a0benefit from\u00a0it at all, please remember that just a few dollars from <em>you<\/em> helps <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">a lot.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><a style=\"text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=KVNWHBFV8MHF6\" target=\"_blank\">Leave a ONE-TIME gift\u00a0HERE<\/a><u>.<em>\u00a0Thank you.<\/em><\/u><\/strong><\/h3>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=KVNWHBFV8MHF6\"><br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=KVNWHBFV8MHF6\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-17753 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-150x150.png\" alt=\"tipsarelikehugs\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-200x200.png 200w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-350x350.png 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs-60x60.png 60w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/tipsarelikehugs.png 386w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2FRay2.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Flisadelay.com%2Fblog%2Feps-54-online-truth-bombs-karma-deeper-grace-guest-ray-hollenbach%2F\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Ray2.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=17927-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Ray2.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Ray2.mp3\">Download<\/a> (53.8MB) | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Embed\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('17927-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Embed<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_embed_box\" id=\"powerpress_embed_17927-podcast\" style=\"display: none;\"><input id=\"powerpress_embed_17927-podcast_t\" type=\"text\" value=\"&lt;iframe src=&quot;https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2FRay2.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Flisadelay.com%2Fblog%2Feps-54-online-truth-bombs-karma-deeper-grace-guest-ray-hollenbach%2F&quot; 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How do Christians most often get the concept wrong?<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=152342902X&amp;asins=152342902X&amp;linkId=56f996982fa276745fbed09e244feeb3&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nMIN 4<\/p>\n<p>Karma is the voice of reason and Grace is the voice of Love.<\/p>\n<p>We want karma for others and grace for ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>Justice and Grace<\/p>\n<p>MIN 7<\/p>\n<p><strong>The oppressor is also oppressed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Victim and victimizer are both held captive.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>MIN 10<\/p>\n<p>Roman 8:1<\/p>\n<p>Offering <b>others<\/b> assurance of not having condemnation.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 11<\/p>\n<p><strong>on GRACE for Difficult people<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MIN 14<\/p>\n<p>The person with the problem is the person who thinks there is a problem.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 16:30<\/p>\n<p>Stewardship (of grace) to not expose others and be brutal online or otherwise.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Love covers a multitude of sins.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>MIN 21<\/p>\n<p>The medium of being protected by a screen and not going to someone alone and face-to-face to win over a brother or sister.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 22<\/p>\n<p><strong>Truth Bombs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What do we do with our outrage?<\/p>\n<p>MIN25<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe anger of man does not accomplish the righteousness of God\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>ASK:<\/strong> How big is your sphere really?<\/p>\n<p>Renevere podcast \u201cnot having to have the last word\u201d Dallas Willard<\/p>\n<p>MIN 28<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/studentsofjesus.com\" target=\"_blank\">StudentsofJesus.com<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/studentsofjesus.com\/deeper-seminars\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Deeper Seminars (link)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Relationally combining grace and truth<\/p>\n<p>MIN 32 What &#8220;Grace teaches&#8221; means<\/p>\n<p>Titus 2:11-12<\/p>\n<p><strong>3 movements of grace<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>salvation &#8211; forgiveness<\/li>\n<li>how to say no to ungodliness<\/li>\n<li>how to live upright sensible lives in this present age<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/2015\/05\/12\/episode-7-vine-grafting-special-guest-ray-hollenbach\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fruit of the Spirit (link to Ray&#8217;s\u00a0first guest podcast)<\/a> and the biggest misunderstanding about it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Not attained but instead or the byproduct (result) that show we are living a life with God (Divine Love).<\/p>\n<p>John chapter 15<\/p>\n<p>FREE=to=Download [PDF] Exercises from Ray.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Deeper-Grace-Exercise-One.pdf\" rel=\"\">Deeper Grace &#8211; Exercise One<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Deeper-Grace-Exercise-Two.pdf\" rel=\"\">Deeper Grace &#8211; 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