{"id":18476,"date":"2016-06-17T03:33:04","date_gmt":"2016-06-17T08:33:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=18476"},"modified":"2016-07-05T14:28:35","modified_gmt":"2016-07-05T19:28:35","slug":"eps-66-kester-brewin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-66-kester-brewin\/","title":{"rendered":"Eps 66: Pirates &#038; Getting High (Transcendence) \u2013 Guest Kester Brewin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Today, my guest is author and friend from across the pond, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Kester Brewin<\/span>. Our conversation covers fascinating topics about human nature and the history of drug culture and the Jesus movement, the surprising backstory about colonial era\u00a0Pirates and mutiny few of us have heard, along with some of Kester&#8217;s personal journey.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #808080;\">MAKE SURE to <strong>scroll down<\/strong> to see a <strong>playlist<\/strong> of other episodes I know you&#8217;ll like and a <strong>subscribe<\/strong> option. Thank you so much for listening in. A wonderful summer lineup of guests is coming. Like, next week&#8217;s guest: Mike McHargue (Ask Science Mike).<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18477\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18477\" style=\"width: 240px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18477\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium-240x300.jpg\" alt=\"Kester Brewin\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium-350x438.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium-120x150.jpg 120w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium-768x960.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/KB-Portrait-Medium.jpg 819w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18477\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kester Brewin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/player.blubrry.com?podcast_id=14460220\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>(If you hear some audio you&#8217;d like to share. 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started VAUX community, and is the author of a number of books<\/p>\n<p>The Complexed Christ<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B00DP7UJYC&amp;asins=B00DP7UJYC&amp;linkId=dfcb4a00bacb5cdb54dcb705901cd31e&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>:<\/p>\n<p>Mutiny (about pirates and democracy)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s his UK TED talk<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/escnWFDUYhI\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>4:00<br \/>\nWhat Pirates are actually all about.<\/p>\n<p>In culture and film and even theology.<\/p>\n<p><strong>An act of self determination.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Everyone was stealing. Pirates bought themselves more years.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Skull and crossbones, a symbol of death, is turned into new life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Pirate radio and other uprisings that set riches into public circulation.<\/p>\n<p>9:00<br \/>\nTheology, Piracy and Peter Pan<\/p>\n<p>Overcoming the Father and the piracy of that.<\/p>\n<p>12:30<br \/>\nKester\u2019s book <strong>Mutiny<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0955981379&amp;asins=0955981379&amp;linkId=c0b35ea6809be2eb5b2ebe404ea15d04&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>He tackles two stories.<br \/>\nThe Prodigal Son &#8211; retold as a tragedy<br \/>\nand <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Odyssey\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>The Odyssey<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">~If you&#8217;d like&#8230;read the PRODIGAL SON parable in the Bible <a style=\"color: #ff0000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=luke+15%3A11-32&amp;version=NIV\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>HERE<\/strong><\/a>.~<\/span><\/p>\n<p>When children become free.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 20:00<br \/>\nThe latest book<br \/>\n<em><strong>Getting High A Savage Journey to the Heart the Dream of Flight<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0993562817&amp;asins=0993562817&amp;linkId=e45a099108e01eeb257f9cfb07b2438b&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>An argument with <a href=\"http:\/\/peterrollins.net\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Rollins<\/a> about the infinite.<\/p>\n<p>The ancient and ongoing quest for transcendence;<br \/>\nwanting to lift away.<\/p>\n<p>Humans can\u2019t fly.<br \/>\nFlight, space, mind trips, charismatics, emotionalism<\/p>\n<p>22:00<br \/>\n\u201cUp there\u201d becomes spiritual, like fire straining to reach the lights of heaven.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>24:00<br \/>\nFlight is seen as a sin at first.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Balloonists (first \u201cflyers\u201d) refer to the experience as spiritual.<\/p>\n<p>25:00<br \/>\nSpace program of the 1960s<br \/>\nLSD counter culture<br \/>\nAnd the pentecostal movement<br \/>\nTechnology has spiritual weight, meaning and significance to humans.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lonnie_Frisbee\" target=\"_blank\">Lonnie Frisbee<\/a> hippie has experience meeting Jesus in the bible.<\/p>\n<p>Beach music brought into church and known as worship tunes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Wimber\" target=\"_blank\">John Wimber<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Association_of_Vineyard_Churches\" target=\"_blank\">Vineyard church<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Middle class Christianity<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hells_Angels\" target=\"_blank\">Hell\u2019s Angels<\/a>, working class men.<\/p>\n<p>29:00<br \/>\nKester\u2019s religious background<\/p>\n<p><a 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