{"id":18575,"date":"2016-07-01T03:58:43","date_gmt":"2016-07-01T08:58:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=18575"},"modified":"2016-08-04T21:41:58","modified_gmt":"2016-08-05T02:41:58","slug":"eps-68-discovering-fable-guest-charlie-porter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-68-discovering-fable-guest-charlie-porter\/","title":{"rendered":"Eps 68: Discovering Fable &#8211; Guest Charlie Porter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I welcome podcaster, Charlie Porter of <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/fablepodcast.podbean.com\" target=\"_blank\">Fable Podcast<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>as my guest.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/fablepodcast.podbean.com\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-18796 size-thumbnail alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CharliePorter-94x150.jpeg\" width=\"94\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CharliePorter-94x150.jpeg 94w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CharliePorter-350x557.jpeg 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CharliePorter-189x300.jpeg 189w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CharliePorter.jpeg 644w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 94px) 100vw, 94px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-18578 size-thumbnail alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"fable logo\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-350x350.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-768x769.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo-144x144.jpg 144w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/fable-logo.jpg 959w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We cover a range of topics including his story of doubt and disorientation and then reconnection to deeper life\u00a0and meaning through <strong>story<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/player.blubrry.com?podcast_id=14810824\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nIf you want to share audio of this episode use the red and white icon below.<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2FFable.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Flisadelay.com%2Fblog%2Feps-68-discovering-fable-guest-charlie-porter%2F\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Fable.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=18575-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Fable.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Fable.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 52:27 &#8212; 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(Lisa a la Brene Brown)<br \/>\nCharlie was in 8th grade during the Twin Tower attack\u2013and has no cultural experience off &#8220;escapism&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.academia.edu\/2912341\/Laclau_and_Mouffe_s_Discourse_Theory_and_Faircloughs_Critical_Discourse_Analysis_An_Introduction_and_Comparison\" target=\"_blank\">Discourse Theory- Laclau and Mouffe &#8211; <strong>Nodal Points PDF<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>MIN 15:30 Captain American &#8211; Civil War<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B01D9EUNBY&amp;asins=B01D9EUNBY&amp;linkId=57bf1220968d6b659bd02448e01330f1&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>MIN 17:30<\/p>\n<p>Charlie&#8217;s story about the homeless man in downtown Detroit.<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" id=\"audio_iframe\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/media\/player\/ixiru-5eef41\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nMIN 24:30<br \/>\nBeing aware of &#8220;Thin Spaces&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>MIN 26:30<br \/>\nGod&#8217;s call (in the Bible to his people) to remembrance.<br \/>\nSacred places, festivals, sacraments, and times of being &#8220;woke&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Drops Like Stars by Rob Bell<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0062197282&amp;asins=0062197282&amp;linkId=c38c83949121f4efc98cd995016f7445&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Anticipating &#8220;thin spaces&#8221; and getting through rocky times through vulnerability.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 31:00<br \/>\nTruly seeing others.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/George_Fox\" target=\"_blank\">George Fox<\/a> &#8220;The Spirit can speak to thine own condition.&#8221; (possible quote)<\/p>\n<p>Jacob is woken within his dream to see the angels going up and down from heaven.<\/p>\n<p>35:00<br \/>\nLucid Dreams<\/p>\n<p>(my short book on the topic)<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B00A4UYVW4&amp;asins=B00A4UYVW4&amp;linkId=b2614f9fb393a5d027b2989c111cbe38&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 <a href=\"http:\/\/dreamstudies.org\/2011\/01\/06\/the-neuroscience-of-lucid-dreaming\/\" target=\"_blank\">Neuroscience study &#8211; lucid dreaming<\/a>\u00a0(link)<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Mysticism or altered or new states of consciousness feels analogues to me (Lisa) in the way that\u00a0lucid dreaming does.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Am I a Buddhist and just don&#8217;t know? 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