{"id":18898,"date":"2016-08-26T03:04:34","date_gmt":"2016-08-26T08:04:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=18898"},"modified":"2017-03-18T13:55:38","modified_gmt":"2017-03-18T17:55:38","slug":"eps-76-sin-certainty-misunderstanding-bible-guest-peter-enns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-76-sin-certainty-misunderstanding-bible-guest-peter-enns\/","title":{"rendered":"Eps 76: The Sin of Certainty and Misunderstanding the Bible: Guest Peter Enns"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Welcome to Spark My Muse!<\/strong><\/h2>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><em>HOW FUNDING WORKS:<br \/>\nSpark My Muse is heard in 174\u00a0countries!<br \/>\n<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u00a0Help out by giving a gift, now and then.<br \/>\nThank you for\u00a0ANY amount,<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000080;\">even<\/span><span style=\"color: #000080;\"> $5 or $10,<\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\"> you can give\u00a0today.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">OR find more goodies as a <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/patreon.com\/sparkmymuse\">Patreon Supporter<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=KVNWHBFV8MHF6\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18682 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-150x80.jpeg\" alt=\"paypal\" width=\"150\" height=\"80\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-150x80.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-350x187.jpeg 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-300x160.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-768x410.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-1024x546.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal.jpeg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/player.blubrry.com?podcast_id=16311825\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The power of sharing an audio clip from this episode is in your grasp! 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Wait. What?<\/p>\n<p>MIN 4:30<\/p>\n<p>On uncomfortable things.<\/p>\n<p>Suggestion alternate ways of thinking that are compelling that alone can be too uncomfortable and resisted sometimes.<\/p>\n<p>Centrist background and when went to Westminster Seminary and taught there.<\/p>\n<p>Inspiration and Incarnation (book link)\u00a0 The problem on the OT.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 8:30<\/p>\n<p>Adam &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/biologos.org\" target=\"_blank\">BioLogos<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Evolution of Adam<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0801097487&amp;asins=0801097487&amp;linkId=520e011d7a7d2c7ab2efbec90c6ea4db&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Genesis and Science speak two different languages.<\/p>\n<p>Medieval Jewish readings of the Genesis story Adam reflects and parallel the story of Israel and paradise land.<\/p>\n<p>Adam as a symbol, theme, or pattern. Be aware of literary structure.<\/p>\n<p>Bible written as thoughtful theology not history (or science). Written as the story of Israel that show their ideology. (and identity)<\/p>\n<p>MIN 13<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]Literalism is a modernist reading strategy [of the Bible].[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(To share this nifty quote above on TWITTER, it takes 4 seconds. Just click the <strong><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">blue bird icon.<\/span><\/strong> And keep your eyeballs open for other easy-to-tweet\u00a0quotes throughout these show notes.)<\/p>\n<p>Different books of the people (in different eras) adjust and revise other parts of scripture.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]I find that the most conservative way of reading the Bible is the most unbiblical.[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0062272039&amp;asins=0062272039&amp;linkId=ef035c544eb90c0a7dfac9a08960aa75&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=thbloflicode-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=158743315X&amp;asins=158743315X&amp;linkId=bc702459a9d70e4dcd54520b7d08124a&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nMIN 15<\/p>\n<p>Pete, what do you mean by \u201cGOD\u201d? (and how he encounters that in his newest book.)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Using the word \u201cGod\u201d is almost lazy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>MIN 19:30<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]There is no one portrayal of God in the Bible.[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It changes depending on the culture, theology, time, circumstances, and author or authors writing the book. The New Testament comes from the Old Testament trajectory.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 22:00<\/p>\n<p>[In Paul&#8217;s letters] Paul [is] trying to make sense of Jesus when it\u2019s a radical departure from Jewish thought.<\/p>\n<p>[The bible is] [T]he development of how humans think about God. The tribal God is warlike [is one example].<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]The \u201cbiblical God\u201d is the God we see through our own lens.[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>MIN 25:00<\/p>\n<p>God in our image.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]\u201cIt\u2019s not just that we use psychology, we ARE psychology.\u201d[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]\u201cAll theology is psychology and sociology, [because] we are people who live in communities and people with histories.\u201d[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]\u201cGod allows [God\u2019s] children to tell [God\u2019s] story from where they are from their perspective.\u201d[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p>\n<p>Hold with an open fist.<\/p>\n<p>MIN 28:30<\/p>\n<p>The mystery of the Incarnation and how we see the world.<\/p>\n<p>[ictt-tweet-inline via=&#8221;&#8221;]\u201cJesus is the model and Savior and messy and a 1st century Jewish man.\u201d[\/ictt-tweet-inline]<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s the divine part of Christology?<\/p>\n<p>MIN 32:00<\/p>\n<p>How has Pete\u2019s personal concepts of God have evolved?<\/p>\n<p>My experience of God is not irrelevant and not relegated to just the academic and the life of the modernist mind.<\/p>\n<p>(Eastern) Orthodox \u201cGod as Being\u201d (rather than a Being)<\/p>\n<p>When you think of God what do you think of?<\/p>\n<p>God is in you and without God there is nothing. And God is all around you. 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