{"id":19166,"date":"2016-10-28T03:15:22","date_gmt":"2016-10-28T07:15:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=19166"},"modified":"2016-10-28T06:28:22","modified_gmt":"2016-10-28T10:28:22","slug":"eps-85-catacombic-freestyling-with-swede-josef-gustafsson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-85-catacombic-freestyling-with-swede-josef-gustafsson\/","title":{"rendered":"Eps 85: Catacombic Freestyling with Swede Josef Gustafsson"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Welcome to Spark My Muse!<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><strong><em>DETAILS:<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 Each\u00a0<strong>FRIDAY,\u00a0<\/strong>guests join me in a\u00a0conversation.<br \/>\n\u2022 Come back each\u00a0<strong>Wednesday<\/strong><br \/>\n(on &#8220;Hump Day&#8221; aka Midweek) for a brief Soul School &#8220;lesson&#8221;\u2013something for your interior world and common life.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em><strong style=\"color: #000080;\">WILL YOU HELP ME? Spark My Muse is LISTENER supported.<\/strong><\/em><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&amp;hosted_button_id=KVNWHBFV8MHF6\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18682 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-150x80.jpeg\" alt=\"paypal\" width=\"150\" height=\"80\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-150x80.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-350x187.jpeg 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-300x160.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-768x410.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal-1024x546.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/paypal.jpeg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><br \/>\nWould you give $5 or $10 today to support the program?<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s quick, easy and makes the show possible.<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">My guest today is a Swede!<br \/>\nJosef Gustafson.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-19171\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef-296x300.png\" alt=\"swede-josef\" width=\"296\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef-296x300.png 296w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef-350x355.png 350w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef-148x150.png 148w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Swede-Josef.png 378w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 296px) 100vw, 296px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/player.blubrry.com?podcast_id=18084529\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2FJosef.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Flisadelay.com%2Fblog%2Feps-85-catacombic-freestyling-with-swede-josef-gustafsson%2F\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Josef.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=19166-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/Josef.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Josef.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 51:53 &#8212; 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catacombs in the basement. It may not reflect truth. It reflects what is being preached.<\/p>\n<p>Re-present what we think is the truth. Not trying to re-present something.<\/p>\n<p>Our theology (our cathedrals represent the people who built it.). We build boards (whether we see them or not and they function in an exclusive fashion.<\/p>\n<p>The proclamation the church made that the spirit doesn\u2019t move outside the Father or Son and the Son is found in the Church. (inside)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In theology, difference is looked at as if is presupposes opposition.<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s the other way around, opposition presupposes difference.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Novelty<\/p>\n<p>26:00<\/p>\n<p>EXAMPLE: the Internet and new categories .<\/p>\n<p>The Pope follows no one back on Twitter, because an old institution is misunderstanding a new\u00a0 category of communication.<\/p>\n<p>27:30<\/p>\n<p>How do the people of the Church gather in a way that works?<\/p>\n<p>PETE ROLLINS episode &amp; pints and parable<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>HERE THE EPISODE WITH PETE ROLLINS:<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/player.blubrry.com?podcast_id=16692869\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Twitter democratizes people and strips off labels of an old (pre digital) world.<\/p>\n<p>New hierarchies are being created online where added a meaningful contribution makes you an important member.<\/p>\n<p>Humans continue to have the same desire to connect (in-person) and gather.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/peterrollins.net\/category\/upcoming_events\/\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Rollin\u2019s WAKE festival<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The challenge of being present when you gather in person.<\/p>\n<p>34:00<\/p>\n<p>Church of Sweden<\/p>\n<p>37:00<\/p>\n<p>The growth of Pentecostalism worldwide.<\/p>\n<p>38:30<\/p>\n<p>Hillsong Church in Sweden drawing young people<\/p>\n<p>39:30<\/p>\n<p>Americanizes version of Christianity on the continent of Africa<\/p>\n<p>40:00 Where the podcast is going.<\/p>\n<p>Challenge themselves creativity but living in the algorithms that keep you in an echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p>Bringing on guests that make subscribers uncomfortable.<\/p>\n<p>Collaboration<\/p>\n<p>Freestylechristianity.se<\/p>\n<p>thecatacombicmachine.com on iTunes<\/p>\n<p>@josefgustafsson<\/p>\n<p>Catherine Keller theologian the dark and the light find what we can\u2019t see in the light.<\/p>\n<p>48:00<\/p>\n<p>Be prepared to be unprepared for the novel and the new for that which will rupture our understand about what it truth and what is good.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>THANK YOU FOR LISTENING!<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong> Let me know if you like Spark My Muse, if you have a recommendation for a guest, and please\u00a0leave a review on iTunes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hear more episodes-\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\n<!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<div class=\"wp-playlist wp-audio-playlist wp-playlist-light\">\n\t\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-current-item\"><\/div>\n\t\t<audio controls=\"controls\" preload=\"none\" width=\"638\"><\/audio>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-next\"><\/div>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-prev\"><\/div>\n\t<noscript>\n\t<ol><\/ol>\n\t<\/noscript>\n\t<script type=\"application\/json\" class=\"wp-playlist-script\">{\"type\":\"audio\",\"tracklist\":true,\"tracknumbers\":false,\"images\":true,\"artists\":true,\"date\":true,\"poster\":{\"src\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lisadelay.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/powerpress\\\/SMMpitunes.jpg\",\"width\":\"144\",\"height\":\"144\"},\"tracks\":[{\"src\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.blubrry.com\\\/spark_my_muse\\\/content.blubrry.com\\\/spark_my_muse\\\/The_Meeting_Place_LauraKauffman.mp3\",\"type\":\"audio\\\/mpeg\",\"title\":\"The Meeting Place - 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