{"id":24178,"date":"2021-03-17T03:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-17T07:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=24178"},"modified":"2021-03-15T20:30:54","modified_gmt":"2021-03-16T00:30:54","slug":"eps-194-when-pain-is-in-the-present-guest-kj-ramsey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/eps-194-when-pain-is-in-the-present-guest-kj-ramsey\/","title":{"rendered":"Eps. 194: When Pain is in the Present; Guest, KJ Ramsey"},"content":{"rendered":"Today is a conversation with KJ Ramsey about her book <strong>&#8220;This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers&#8221;.<\/strong>\u00a0KJ is a licensed professional therapist and someone who also lives with a painful and debilitating chronic illness since young adulthood. Her empathy and wisdom are hard-won. 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