{"id":27389,"date":"2026-05-07T16:12:14","date_gmt":"2026-05-07T20:12:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?p=27389"},"modified":"2026-05-07T17:11:33","modified_gmt":"2026-05-07T21:11:33","slug":"letting-event-based-forms-of-church-die","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/letting-event-based-forms-of-church-die\/","title":{"rendered":"Letting Event-based Forms of Church Die"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=153867592&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=27389-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 4:49 &#8212; 6.6MB) | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Embed\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('27389-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Embed<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_embed_box\" id=\"powerpress_embed_27389-podcast\" style=\"display: none;\"><input id=\"powerpress_embed_27389-podcast_t\" type=\"text\" value=\"&lt;iframe src=&quot;https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=153867592&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot; height=&quot;165&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; id=&quot;blubrryplayer-2&quot; class=&quot;blubrryplayer&quot; title=&quot;Blubrry Podcast Player&quot;&gt;&lt;\/iframe&gt;\" onclick=\"javascript: this.select();\" onfocus=\"javascript: this.select();\" style=\"width: 70%;\" readOnly><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe to Spark My Muse <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/spark-my-muse\/id988423690?mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=https%3A%2F%2Flisadelay.com%2Fblog%2F%3Fp%3D27389\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/feeds.podcastmirror.com\/spark-my-muse\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.podcastmirror.com\/spark-my-muse\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/spark-muse-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe to Spark My Muse\" rel=\"nofollow\">Subscribe to Spark My Muse<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It was a great time speaking with author, teacher, and spiritual director Cindy S Lee about the desert elders and spiritual formation, but we covered other topics in our surprisingly wide-reaching conversation. We spoke about the deficits in many Western forms of church that focus on the an individual\u2019s needs and thereby neglect the ingredients for creating enriching communities vital to our healthy spiritual formation.\u00a0The podcast has only an excerpt <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>TO WATCH and listen to the full version, go here:<a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/live\/9n4tyHbhh8A\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u00a0https:\/\/youtube.com\/live\/9n4tyHbhh8A<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Join me and scholar Robert J Monson, Sunday May 17th at 4pm ET on the&nbsp;<a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/@Sparkmymuse\"><strong>youtube channel<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;for a LIVE conversation&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br \/><strong>Click the image below fora direct link, and be sure to subscribe!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"482\" src=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-1024x482.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-27391\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-1024x482.png 1024w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-300x141.png 300w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-150x71.png 150w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-768x362.png 768w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM-1536x723.png 1536w, https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Screenshot-2026-03-30-at-9.33.58-PM.png 1826w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=153867592&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fspark_my_muse%2Fcindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-3\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lisadelay.com\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=27389-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/content.blubrry.com\/spark_my_muse\/cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"cindy_s_lee_may_3_mixdown.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 4:49 &#8212; 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