Eps 68: Discovering Fable – Guest Charlie Porter

Today, I welcome podcaster, Charlie Porter of Fable Podcast as my guest.

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We cover a range of topics including his story of doubt and disorientation and then reconnection to deeper life and meaning through story.



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Show notes:

MIN 1:00
Charlie’s story of picking up the pieces and starting a new story.

MIN 4:00

Peter Pan and Captain Hook

• Peter Pan syndrome

Not wanting our faith to grow up. Not wanting to ask questions because that ground is uncharted.

MIN 10:30
On the old folk tales that tell us who we are, even now.

MIN 11:30

The role of fantasy and escapism after 9/11. (Lisa a la Brene Brown)
Charlie was in 8th grade during the Twin Tower attack–and has no cultural experience off “escapism”.

• Discourse Theory- Laclau and Mouffe – Nodal Points PDF

MIN 15:30 Captain American – Civil War

MIN 17:30

Charlie’s story about the homeless man in downtown Detroit.

MIN 24:30
Being aware of “Thin Spaces”

MIN 26:30
God’s call (in the Bible to his people) to remembrance.
Sacred places, festivals, sacraments, and times of being “woke”.

Drops Like Stars by Rob Bell

Anticipating “thin spaces” and getting through rocky times through vulnerability.

MIN 31:00
Truly seeing others.

George Fox “The Spirit can speak to thine own condition.” (possible quote)

Jacob is woken within his dream to see the angels going up and down from heaven.

35:00
Lucid Dreams

(my short book on the topic)

Neuroscience study – lucid dreaming (link)

• Mysticism or altered or new states of consciousness feels analogues to me (Lisa) in the way that lucid dreaming does.

“Am I a Buddhist and just don’t know? They’re talking about waking up.”

• Christianity is an Eastern religion. (Eastern Orthodox)

MIN 45:00
Being drawn into the mystery and a place beyond words and reason.

Enacting loving grace toward others when it doesn’t just stay in your head.

Incarnation and living in the world.

“Returned to Orthodoxy” – knowing the Jesus that is here now (not just the Jesus of the cross.)

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Adventures in Poison Ivy…

Poison Ivy (sure she looks alright... but).

Today is my 5th day with Poison Ivy. I wish getting a rash from the stuff made me look like Uma Thurman in the Batman Series. But no. It’s on my right hand, my neck, and my face. (I’ll spare you a picture…but if you’re weird and very curious you can find one I posted on Facebook… cause I’m weird. It was really more of a cry for help.)

My husband was impervious to the wiles of the wicked weed throughout his whole life. He was a sort of “Leaves of three, won’t hurt me,” kind of person. He was quite immune, and had an immense confidence in his resistance.

Little did he realize that one can develop a sensitivity at any time in life; sometimes suddenly–out of nowhere. You probably know where this is going, right?

Yep. Two years ago he yanked out a very pesky vine in our yard, and developed bumps under his watchband. “Bug bites,” he said. Very nasty and itchy bite causing bugs, with the kind of kind of moxie to work around and under a tight plastic strap, and skip all the easy biting areas. Hands? Ankles? Neck? That’s for sissy bugs! These bugs were The Seal Team 6 of the insect world.

After a few days, and the “bug bites” spreading (strangely enough), he complained how powerfully allergic he turned out to be to these vicious insect creatures. I took one look, and said, “That looks just like poison ivy.”

He said, “It can’t be poison ivy. I don’t get poison ivy.” Still, he agreed to have the doctor take a look, and was treated with a steroid for guess what? Now, he lives a life of fear for that side of our yard. Recollecting the agony has made him a different man.

HERE is a link to properly identify these common rash inducers.

People can be like poison ivy. Sure everything is innocuous at first. Maybe, we think, “Great, they’re raspberries!” Raspberries have leaves-of-three. And raspberries are delicious! Mmm. We interact with them, and after some searching, we don’t seem to find the fruit we thought we would. Nevertheless, no ill comes of it. It’s more of a enigma than anything. Hardy plants too. Look at them take off!

Then one day, it strikes us, these leaves-of-three people actually cause irritation, and a distracting burning itch…that spreads. You may try to make it work. You may try to just “semi-interact” with them, but a rash is always the result. Usually, it’s the kind of rash that gets a bit worse with each encounter.

Finally, you realize, “Leaves-of-three, let them be.” They are, in fact, poisonous to you and many others…even though they may seem like wonderful raspberries at first. Where they are comes annoyance, pain, or vexation. They are clever look-alikes. Nothing can make them raspberries, and you have to stop acting as if there is a way that a wholesale change into “something else” is possible. You realize you can cancel their debt of inflicting you, but you don’t want to be touched by them, or get too close anymore. It’s just not worth it.

Have you ever had to avoid a “poison ivy person”?

What are some cures or remedies you’ve heard of for helping with poison ivy? (The plant kind, or the people kind.)

And I’m really curious, What kind of prayer do you think might help with regards to poison ivy people?