Eps 72: Deconstructionists RECAP with Adam & John on Jack Caputo

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THEY ARE BACK.
Adam Narloch and John Williamson of the Deconstructionist Podcast!

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Hear Adam and John the previous time they came on the Spark My Muse show: Episode 59.


SHOW NOTES for Episode 72

It’s a special podcast powwow with Adam and John as we deconstruct / unpack their recent conversation with remarkable guest John D. Caputo!
(often referred to as Jack)

Min 2
“What Would Jesus Deconstruct” by Jack Caputo

(John) On Jack Caputo and his work related to Philosopher Jacques Derrida

The Weakness of God – by Jack Caputo

Other books by John D. Caputojack_Caputo

MIN 3:30

The meaning of “Weak Theology”

(briefly explained)

Tragedies bring out the questions of Theodicy (or so-called “weak theology”) and the questions of why good God would allow humans to suffer. We talk about how we perceive weakness compared to how God might encounter or solve that. It’s a loving term of weakness.

Looking at Jesus dying on the cross as a metaphor for weakness. (sacrifice)

Violence begets more violence.
The solution is a surprising one.

MIN 6:30

(Adam)

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Foolishness of God is the great reversal and is the premise of weak theology.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

Michel Foucault on knowledge and power

MIN 8:20
Why the Deconstructionist podcast is not heterodox or counter-orthodoxy or heretical:

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Theology isn’t something you can capture and freeze.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

Beliefs are constructed through history are relatively stable (this is why they last throughout time) but they are also relatively unstable then too. It’s both dangerous to mess with the beliefs and dangerous to keep them frozen too.

MIN 10

(John) The nugget John found in the conversation:

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Deconstruction is not a drive-by shooting.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

• Karen Armstrong’s work – (books)

Ancient people, scribes, leaders, and rabbi’s were always struggling with how to interpret scripture.

MIN 13:00
The cultural legacy of a modernity mindset is to think that the Bible could be seen as inerrant.

The re-imagining of the Scriptures.

MIN 13:30

(Adam)

Theo-poetics

It’s not that we have to destroy it but we have to continue to to image and expose the Scripture to its own future.

MIN 15:00

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]If Justice or Hospitality exists, it calls to us. It’s something we imagine and pray for and long for. God doesn’t exist, God insists.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

MIN 16:30

“You can’t be a fascist of knowledge.” -Adam Narloch

MIN 17:30
Some people think deconstructing is negative and a dead end. Why deconstructing is not a dead end but rather life-giving.

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]The desire beyond desire. It calls us to the next thing. We mistake desire for the thing.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

MIN 18:30

(Adam)

Further up and further in…

the thing calling us forward. The beyond the beyond. The deconstructive process continues and we have to keep opening it up.

MIN 20:00

(John) Being comfortable of the Mystery of God.

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Who created God? you realize is the wrong question.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

MIN 23:30

(Lisa) My own deconstructing the image of Jesus, of God, and the mystery of understanding how our brains understand reality through constructions.

MIN 25:00

(Adam)

The alien orb. Sphere a Michael Crighton novel.

The Anthropomorphic problem – people make things people-like.

Jewish people are iconoclastic. No graven images. Images don’t capture the meaning.

Jesus is iconoclastic because he comes as divine coming in human form.

The temple curtain is torn revealing that nothing was there behind it because there was more to be revealed.

MIN 29:00

(John)

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Pluralism helps us deconstructs and helps take us to deeper truth.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

MIN 32:00

(Lisa)
Wrestling with God is our “calling” (as humans). In other words, it’s our most basic human experience.

Hear Robcast with Rabbi Joel.

MIN 33 (Adam)

[ictt-tweet-inline via=””]Enlightenment has co-opted inside religion to take the wrestling [with God] out.[/ictt-tweet-inline]

MIN 33:30

(John)

on their podcast being referred to as “dangerous”

Heresy in the Middle Ages related to power and government structures (not spirituality).

The influence of the famous women mystics threatened power structures more than personal spiritual devotion in the lives of people.


MIN 36:00

• Revisionist History podcast Malcom Galdwell.

Do a revisionist history on the church heretics.

Check out Pelagius and see if maybe he wasn’t a heretic.

MIN 39:00

on Paul’s letters (which became part of collection of books now know as The Holy Bible) were the documents that were preserved the best (and most shaped what is now Christianity)

MIN 43:00

Paul’s authority.

The scandal of turning Paul’s letters into a new law would have deeply grieved Paul.

The Fidelity of Betrayal – Peter Rollins

• Peter Rollins’ books

Hear Episode 18 of the Deconstructionist Podcast featuring Jack Caputo here.


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Eps 68: Discovering Fable – Guest Charlie Porter

Today, I welcome podcaster, Charlie Porter of Fable Podcast as my guest.

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We cover a range of topics including his story of doubt and disorientation and then reconnection to deeper life and meaning through story.



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MIN 1:00
Charlie’s story of picking up the pieces and starting a new story.

MIN 4:00

Peter Pan and Captain Hook

• Peter Pan syndrome

Not wanting our faith to grow up. Not wanting to ask questions because that ground is uncharted.

MIN 10:30
On the old folk tales that tell us who we are, even now.

MIN 11:30

The role of fantasy and escapism after 9/11. (Lisa a la Brene Brown)
Charlie was in 8th grade during the Twin Tower attack–and has no cultural experience off “escapism”.

• Discourse Theory- Laclau and Mouffe – Nodal Points PDF

MIN 15:30 Captain American – Civil War

MIN 17:30

Charlie’s story about the homeless man in downtown Detroit.

MIN 24:30
Being aware of “Thin Spaces”

MIN 26:30
God’s call (in the Bible to his people) to remembrance.
Sacred places, festivals, sacraments, and times of being “woke”.

Drops Like Stars by Rob Bell

Anticipating “thin spaces” and getting through rocky times through vulnerability.

MIN 31:00
Truly seeing others.

George Fox “The Spirit can speak to thine own condition.” (possible quote)

Jacob is woken within his dream to see the angels going up and down from heaven.

35:00
Lucid Dreams

(my short book on the topic)

Neuroscience study – lucid dreaming (link)

• Mysticism or altered or new states of consciousness feels analogues to me (Lisa) in the way that lucid dreaming does.

“Am I a Buddhist and just don’t know? They’re talking about waking up.”

• Christianity is an Eastern religion. (Eastern Orthodox)

MIN 45:00
Being drawn into the mystery and a place beyond words and reason.

Enacting loving grace toward others when it doesn’t just stay in your head.

Incarnation and living in the world.

“Returned to Orthodoxy” – knowing the Jesus that is here now (not just the Jesus of the cross.)

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fablepodcast@gmail.com

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EPS 37: James Prescott on Rob Bell, Spiral Dynamics, and creating

Today, I welcome writer and recently minted podcaster JAMES PRESCOTT from all the way across the pond!

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Make sure you listen to the James Talks podcast!

MIN 3

Early formation and suffering, including his parent’s problems and his mom’s death and pivotal spiritual influences.

10 min
Being changed by Rob Bell at camp/

About how our formation directs our lives whether we know it or not

15 min
Christian Mystics and the commonalities

Spiral Dynamics a theory about human consciousness

26 min Church as a place of grace

29 James’ book
Dance of the Writer

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34 min
The War of Art

38 min
The monotheism of money in the U.S. (Lisa)

44 min
Wrestling with the lie and myths of success

50 min How quickly what we do will be forgotten. How much do you know about our great grandparents? (Lisa)

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Booming the right kind of person now and surrendering the outcome of the work of passionate creation.

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A message from Lisa

The new book is called FORKED: A Discernment Pocket Guide (for Choosing Between Two Good Things).

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If you’re in the middle of a tough decision or at a crossroads season of your life, this is the resource for you.

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What is Grenzbegriff?

Fossil Sitting In Sun Light

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I didn’t know about this word until recently. English seems to lack a word that encompasses this concept. Yet, it seems the concept itself is ever-present and worth a word of its own.

Grenzbegriff noun. [‘grɛntsbǝgrɪf] 

[German: from Grenze meaning limit, boundary + the word Begriff meaning concept.]

In Kantian philosophy this is a concept that describes the limitation of sense-experience. The word describes a / the concept of limitation and, in general, it describes one’s conception of an unattained ideal…just out of reach.

Something real and yet undefinable because we see (perceive) but a shadow of it is described in grensbegriff. This, which we cannot perceive is somewhere off the map away from what we experience with our senses. Maybe it is even more real than we are.

Let’s have class today. To what things could this word apply?

Love? Art? Hope? What else?

(This means: in your opinion. Please don’t worry about “correctness”. This is just an exercise and I’d love to hear from you.)

Top 10 Books Christians Didn’t Write

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Top 10 Books Christians Didn’t Write

1. Crazy Pug: Overwhelmed by a Relentless Dog -by Francis Chan

2. Jesus Calling and Texting: Enjoying the Piece of His Mind Quite a Bit -by Sarah Young

3. Outlive Your Wife: You Were Meant to Make a Different 2nd Marriage -by Max Lucado

4. Stuff Christians Hike: Christians meet Nature -by Jon Acuff

5. When Vaginas are Ineffable: How My Privates Became Public -by Rachel Held Evans

6. Heaven is for Reel: A Little Boy’s Lucrative Story of a Trip to Hollywood and Back -by Todd Burpo (Not far-fetched. Check this Sony Picture’s article.)

7. The Coming Economic Armageddon: When Doomsday Books Fail to Bring in My Income -David Jeremiah
8. Insurrection: To Hope in Cialis is Human, to Have it Work is Divine -by Pete Rollins
9. Velvet Pelvis: Slow Dancing with the King of Kings -by Rob Bell
10. The Prodigal Cod: Believing in the One That Got Away -by Tim Keller
Tomorrow is the big reveal–All 5 ebook volumes. See you then!