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Shownotes Episode 16 – Apophatic prayer explained in a conversation with Dr. Laurie Mellinger.
Laurie Mellinger, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Spiritual Formation and Christian Theology
Dean of Academic Programs
B.A. Millersville University; M.A.R. Evangelical School of Theology; Ph.D. The Catholic University of America
Get your spiffy guide to the ancient Christian prayer practice of praying using Scripture called Lectio Divina (latin for “sacred reading”). It’s the perfect go-to reference and resource to get started with the four movements of Lectio that lead us to praying without words and listening to God.
A donation of 50¢ or more will get you this essential Lectio Divina resource. Click HERE to download it now!
Encountering and examining Apophatic (contemplative) Prayer
How we are over-stimulated. Children get overstimulated and need naps which means they get silence and solitude and lack of stimulation. Silence and solitude are restorative.
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The demons we encounter in solitude or in the desert.
38:30
A clean and swept room, removed of clutter makes us more aware of new things that might be wrong.
One kind of prayer isn’t better (per se), but God is forming and reform and transforms us back into the image of Christ. God must reform us. In God’s presence we will feel more loved and acceptance and he might put his finger on something to take care of.
Luke 11:24-26
24“When the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and not finding any, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25“And when it comes, it finds it swept and put in order. 26“Then it goes and takes alongseven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first.”
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on…The messy interior work needed to be more like Jesus.
Letting God dig around.
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Helpful and practical advice for getting started with apophatic and contemplative prayer.
Practice reading the Bible and using the text to help you pray and wait. (Lectio Divina)
“That waiting (in prayer) is the entry into apophatic prayer.”
(paraphrase) “If you are still counting the steps, you aren’t dancing yet. You are still learning to dance.”
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Prayer can become flow.
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Union with God – The traditional understand of the goal of apophatic prayer.
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God invites us corporately and individually as human beings into that (triune) relational and our participation in that relationship is what I mean by union with God.”
Sensing the presence and love of God more fully, and more and more fully. This is union with God.
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Western goal in Christianity is often understand (first) as Salvation in terms of Penal Atonement and payment for sin. It is a more judicial angle compared to what Eastern Christians do. It’s much more about relationship restored.
Life As Prayer: Revived Spirituality Inspired by Ancient Piety
(on the life and legacy of Brother Lawrence’s habit of “practicing the presence of God”)
How can YOU find an enduring sense of God’s presence with you? Learn about 16th century Brother Lawrence and how his understanding of God’s presence continues to enrich lives today.
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Both your wine and your life must be able to to breathe!
Full and aware breathing can inspire your creative muse and enrich your life in so many ways.
minute 1:00
I excitedly announce two upcoming interviews:
• Daniel J. Lewis interview (a virtuosic creator who’s received national awards for podcasts he produces).
• Sarah Bessey (Jesus Feminist author) Interview (discussing her new Out of Sorts book).
WINE SEGMENT: Letting wine breathe!
minute: 5:00
In wine terms “aeration” is the process of bringing air into wine.
The term dumb (i.e. “dumb wine”) refers to a wine that has little flavor or fragrance.
• Swirling wine mixes it with air and allows it to both breathe and speak! • Flavor and aroma and the beauty and richness of the wine emerges as space for air gets in (just like us).
TIPS to make a better speaking wine:
(If buying excellent wine isn’t an option….which is most of us!)
Option 1.
Use a blender.
Option 2.
Use a hand blender (this is a method I use)
Option 3.
A cheap and simple solution:
Pour wine into a bowl and whisk it with a fork or whisk (like you would for scrambled eggs).
minute 5:50 Sparking your muse
• Aeration of the soul
• (a short recording) Insights from the middle of my retreat time at the Jesuit Spiritual Center in Wernersville, PA.
Forgetting how to breath.
My asthma and stress; and tightness of breath and soul.
8:30
Sprit of God = breath of life
9:30
On slowing down.
9:50
The fantastic 4-7-8 second breathing exercise I learned to get your breath (and life) back.
Creating space and breath for the Creative muse/your soul to truly thrive
13:00
The Scriptural inspiration, history, and meaning of “Breath Prayer”
(as a Christian devotional practice)
Luke 18:9-14
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
minute 15:00
Breath Prayer: A simple cry for help and connection
• How to do “breath prayer”
• My important adaptation to breath prayer (that helps me identify as a loved child of God).
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My conversation today is with Traci Rhoades about her first book Not All Who Wander (spiritually) Are Lost: A Story of Church
A great way to say “thanks for the audio” is to stop by the extras page to get all the show notes and great links HERE: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40750125 😃. (patreon.com/sparkmymuse | Episode 183)
